How is it any “better” to erase/ignore someone’s indigenous heritage because they have passing privilege? Seriously, this is two different conversations.
You are completely missing the point, likely because you didn’t see all the comments made by ayiman, so I’m going to go urge you to read all his bullshit and then come back later. K? K.
Seriously, I find it interesting how quickly the fact Ayiman was one of the people spouting stuff like blood myth at DTWPS & denying that southern blacks with Blackfoot ancestors had indigenous heritage has been obscured. And that, despite me trying to explain that Blackfoot was a term used historically for more than the Blackfoot Confederacy, he decided I was wrong & has since refused to listen to anything that didn’t support his views. And that very few folks are engaging with the fact that there was a good few hours of denying that blacks with slave ancestors had any kind of indigenous heritage including someone trying to claim that Cherokee slave owners didn’t have sex with their female slaves. Just saying, I see a lot of dirty hands in this conversation.
From your link:
Also, there are some Cherokee and Choctaw people who intermarried with Black Americans in the early history of the United States, and came to be called “Blackfoot”. This is another source you may want to pursue.
I apologize, but I don’t think I was completely wrong either. There couldn’t be more differences between the Blackfeet of the Siksika Confederacy and the Cheyenne River Sioux, and the “Civilized Tribes.”
This isn’t a tacit admission that you’re the same thing, and it seems like it’s telling curious descendants to look elsewhere.
The Blackfoot name in the sense we are referring to was adopted by people who have no discernible connection with the Siksika Confederacy, or the Cheyenne River Sioux, people who never engaged in the slave trade. If a black person intermarried or was adopted, they become one of the tribe, there was no splitting-off, and this I know because my people have done the same thing. I still believe the phrase is an appropriation because it’s tying two innocent peoples to an evil in which they didn’t participate.
and the blood myth stuff was out of line. I apologize for that, but I was angered that someone was attacking and putting things in someone else’s mouth. I apologize for allowing my anger to get the better of me.
It’s a triggering phrase, and I understand the power of triggers.
If you’ve got a story to explore, then explore it, but remember that blood isn’t enough. I wish you luck in your search.
I’m still going to be what I am, despite shit like this:
and I’ve got the scars to prove it.
All my relations.
I knew you said this out of anger:
and the blood myth stuff was out of line. I apologize for that, but I was angered that someone was attacking and putting things in someone else’s mouth. I apologize for allowing my anger to get the better of me.
but thats because I know a little Metis history and how your people had to fight for recognition too. Also how every white person who wants to play Indian calls themselves Metis; has a powwow, or makes “authentic” crafts, or runs sweatlodges…inviting ignorant new ager white people and cashing in. Because of this I’m sure you’ve gotten the side-eye from lots of native people when you tell them you’re Metis. So yeah, saying you’re a white dude is gonna push some buttons hard.
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